{"id":1620,"date":"2017-12-17T13:26:56","date_gmt":"2017-12-17T11:26:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.qkk.hu\/?p=1620"},"modified":"2017-12-17T13:28:51","modified_gmt":"2017-12-17T11:28:51","slug":"akkor-elloptak-vagy-elloptak-magannyugdij-vagyunk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.qkk.hu\/?p=1620","title":{"rendered":"Akkor most ellopt\u00e1k, vagy ELLOPT\u00c1K a mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edj vagyont?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Forr\u00e1s:&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/hvg.hu\/gazdasag\/20171207_NGM_Az_allam_nem_tartozik_semmivel_a_volt_magannyugdijpenztari_tagoknak?utm_expid=1324304-23.8USXuGWPRhWtdjJmATShwQ.0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/hvg.hu\/gazdasag\/20171207_NGM_Az_allam_nem_tartozik_semmivel_a_volt_magannyugdijpenztari_tagoknak?utm_expid=1324304-23.8USXuGWPRhWtdjJmATShwQ.0<\/a><\/p>\n<h1>NGM: Az \u00e1llam nem tartozik semmivel a volt mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1ri tagoknak<\/h1>\n<div class=\"article-lead entry-summary\" data-scroll-event-name=\"ScrollToArticleLead\" data-scroll-event-handled=\"false\">\n<p>Az MSZP-s Kor\u00f3zs Lajos sz\u00fart ki valami furcs\u00e1t az MNB egyik jelent\u00e9s\u00e9ben, de az NGM szerint ez nem jelent semmit.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-content entry-content\">\n<p>Az MSZP-s Kor\u00f3zs Lajos szerint az \u00e1llam \u00f6sszesen 2826 milli\u00e1rd forinttal tartozik a volt mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1ri tagoknak, akiknek az \u00e1llami rendszerbe \u00e1tterel\u00e9sekor egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt arr\u00f3l volt sz\u00f3, hogy a sz\u00e1ml\u00e1ikon felgy\u00fclemlett p\u00e9nzt majd az \u00e1llami egy\u00e9ni sz\u00e1ml\u00e1kon tartj\u00e1k nyilv\u00e1n. 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K\u00e9rd\u00e9s persze, hogy hogyan fogj\u00e1k tudni sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1sba venni az \u00f6sszeget az \u00e9rintett \u00e1llampolg\u00e1ri k\u00f6rn\u00e9l, ha egy\u00e9ni sz\u00e1ml\u00e1k nincsenek, \u00e9s a p\u00e9nzt is elk\u00f6lt\u00f6tt\u00e9k m\u00e1r?<\/p>\n<p>Az NGM v\u00e1lasza kit\u00e9r arra is, hogy a mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1rakn\u00e1l felhalmozott \u00e9s az \u00e1llami rendszerbe \u00e1tvett&nbsp;egy\u00e9ni p\u00e9nzeket val\u00f3ban nem tartj\u00e1k sz\u00e1mon, az \u00e1llami nyugd\u00edjrendszerbe \u00e1tl\u00e9p\u0151k<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a t\u00e1rsadalombiztos\u00edt\u00e1si jogd\u00edjra szereztek jogosults\u00e1got, a mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1rban felhalmozott n\u00e9vre sz\u00f3l\u00f3 vagyon a t\u00e1rsadalombiztos\u00edt\u00e1si rendszerben direkt m\u00f3don, n\u00e9vre sz\u00f3l\u00f3an kifizetend\u0151 \u00f6sszegk\u00e9nt jogilag nem \u00e9rtelmezhet\u0151, az \u00e1llamnak ilyen visszafizet\u00e9si k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9ge nem \u00e1ll fenn.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hozz\u00e1teszik, az \u00e1llamnak t\u00e1rsadalombiztos\u00edt\u00e1si nyugd\u00edjfizet\u00e9si k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9ge keletkezik, amelynek \u00f6sszege \u00e9s esed\u00e9kess\u00e9ge egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt f\u00fcggetlen att\u00f3l, hogy a nyugd\u00edjra jogosult volt-e mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edj-p\u00e9nzt\u00e1ri tag vagy sem, magyarul m\u00e1r teljesen mindegy, hogy ki mennyi p\u00e9nzt halmozott fel a mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1r\u00e1n\u00e1l.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Forr\u00e1s:&nbsp;http:\/\/hvg.hu\/gazdasag\/20171207_NGM_Az_allam_nem_tartozik_semmivel_a_volt_magannyugdijpenztari_tagoknak?utm_expid=1324304-23.8USXuGWPRhWtdjJmATShwQ.0 NGM: Az \u00e1llam nem tartozik semmivel a volt mag\u00e1nnyugd\u00edjp\u00e9nzt\u00e1ri tagoknak Az MSZP-s Kor\u00f3zs Lajos sz\u00fart ki valami furcs\u00e1t az MNB egyik jelent\u00e9s\u00e9ben, de az NGM szerint ez nem jelent semmit. 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